I mean, they look great.

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06/16/2016 at 12:49 • Filed to: None

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And I’m jealous of them being able to redline to the moon and back...

But it's no EcoBoost.


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Kinja'd!!! HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > citizennick
06/16/2016 at 12:59

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That looks good. I'll take two.


Kinja'd!!! BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > citizennick
06/16/2016 at 13:01

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It’s a shame they’re slower than a normal $35k Camaro SS...


Kinja'd!!! TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > citizennick
06/16/2016 at 13:02

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why ecoboost when you supercharge that engine?


Kinja'd!!! RyanFrew > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
06/16/2016 at 13:03

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Source...?


Kinja'd!!! citizennick > RyanFrew
06/16/2016 at 13:08

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He’s probably talking about the 1/4.

There's 3 that are owned by members at the local track, so we will be able to see if the Camaro can hang with them.


Kinja'd!!! BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > RyanFrew
06/16/2016 at 13:17

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http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-f…

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-c…

It appears that the R ties/ squeaks by it in the speed categories, but the SS crushes the standard GT350.


Kinja'd!!! Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > RyanFrew
06/16/2016 at 13:17

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Could be the 1LE. That wouldn’t be a “normal
35k SS” though, but still cheaper than the GT500.


Kinja'd!!! vondon302 > citizennick
06/16/2016 at 13:20

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And they’re too damn heavy.


Kinja'd!!! BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
06/16/2016 at 13:23

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See my reply to Ryan for the references I’m using. It’s not a straight 1:1 comparison because the Camaro has an auto, but it’s a regular old torque converter not a DCT so I consider it pretty indicative.


Kinja'd!!! BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > citizennick
06/16/2016 at 13:25

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1/4, 0-60, mid-range acceleration all tip to the Camaro when stacked against the regular GT350. However, the R does do a bit better than the Chevy. Check out the articles I responded to Ryan with to see the results. It’s not a 1:1 comparison because they used an auto Camaro, but it’s not a DCT so I consider it pretty indicative of what a manual would be capable of.


Kinja'd!!! RallyWrench > citizennick
06/16/2016 at 13:26

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Honestly they could run a 20 second 1/4 mile and I’d still want one for the noise.


Kinja'd!!! RyanFrew > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
06/16/2016 at 13:52

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Meh. There is really only $7,000 separating the Camaro from the GT350, as tested by R&T, and it didn’t “crush” the standard GT350, but it was consistently slightly better in almost every category. Looks to me like the average .2-.3 seconds of advantage that the Camaro had were probably a product of the automatic transmission, as opposed to the six-speed in the Mustang. So, if cheap speed is the mission, then advantage goes to the Chevy. But if you’re looking for old-fashioned fun at the track, then I’d buy the Ford.


Kinja'd!!! BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > RyanFrew
06/16/2016 at 13:55

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If cheap speed is what you want, take off all the luxury crap that pushed the Camaro to within $7k of the GT350. Then add the 1LE pack for $4k. That means you’ll have a car that’s almost $10k cheaper and probably wins at the track too.


Kinja'd!!! Sneaky Pete > citizennick
06/16/2016 at 14:23

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The answer is no.


Kinja'd!!! Sneaky Pete > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
06/16/2016 at 14:27

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12.2 vs 12.5 on separate days, maybe even separate tracks, with separate drivers (though with the auto in the Camaro, little skill is involved) is not crushing anything.


Kinja'd!!! citizennick > Sneaky Pete
06/16/2016 at 23:39

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Let’s see, I’m at 550rwhp N/A, Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2's and just got my 6-piston Brembo’s put on today. I think I stand a strong chance.